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with the united states to overturn gadhafi and police libya these last years but opened relationships with al qaeda and the darkest elements of the jihadists. there's suggestion ambassador stevens was murdered in revenge for the death of a libyan hero to the al qaeda forces al-libbi killed by a drone strike june 4th. >> john, what you're saying is round up the usual suspect, you're saying they have not really caught the perpetrators who killed ambassador stevens? >> the perpetrators are al qaeda and the jihadists of the uma. it's a vast organization. >> thank you for that. let me go to paul wulff wits, former deputy secretary of defense. thank you for coming back on the program. what's your take on this? president obama said no act of terror will go unpunished. he said we're going to bring them all to justice. what happens now? how do we bring them all to justice? >> clearly, we're talking about libya, it will happen with the cooperation of the libyans. one of the important things to put in context here, it's almost lost in everything i've heard is back in july the libyans had a pretty fair e
with us or against us. any country that harbors terrorists is against us, that the united states can make preemptive strikes against these enemy countries. i thought those were extremely important doctrines that president bush laid down. is it your opinion, your view that those doctrines are still being honored today in our national security policy, especially toward terrorists? >> they're in place. president obama has not changed the foreign policy that president bush did change and put in place, which means we're going to be preempted. we want to prevent the next attack. i don't think there's as much resolve, quite frankly, with president obama and i don't think he's provided the leadership and i don't think he's introduced the fear to those people who want to do bad things to us. i think they feel a little bit empowered. thankfully our intelligence k e committee is on its toes and will do everything they can to help. i think we're very lucky. i wish president obama was a stronger leader around the world and wasn't as passive and steps back. it can only come from the president of the u
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